Valverde gets it very, very wrong!" exclaimed . His knowledge of most non-english speaking riders can be written on the back of a postage stamp, with the exception of 'famous' foreigners like the Schlecks, Dertie Cont, Cancellera and after this spring Gilbert. It is not general knowledge, and it should be. I could get 20 minutes of commentary out of dinner last night. Kirby tells us that Batistella is punching his handlebars in celebration. Arriving at road.cc in 2017 via 220 Triathlon Magazine, Jack dipped his toe in most jobs on the site and over ateBikeTips before being namedthe new editor of road.cc in 2020, much to his surprise. Theres an awful lot of distractions to keep on top of, so if you happen to be looking at your notes when somebody has a moment and you dont see it, its not your fault., Kirby laughs. Punching the handlebars is the almost universal sign of frustration at losing. Thankfully, no tree roots to overcome. For over 20 years, be it the Tour de France, Olympic Games, Monte Carlo Rally or Le Mans 24 Hours, his easy-going manner coupled with incisive commentary and a dramatic edge has made him an audience favourite. How much longer do the cycling public have to suffer the idiotic commentary from Carlton Kirby ?? There are no gaps you might shut up for five seconds or so to listen to the crowd, but thats it.. They only received compensation a couple of years later. To my mind, the motorised vehicles are getting far too close, a point I continue to pick up on commentary. And we have managed to cover his view on it. To show no fear is the best skill of all. Help us to make it better. You are as ill informed as Kirby. Wow, all this over a commentator, so Kirby sees a Quickstep rider and mistakes it for Voeckler - that's funny, it's engaging! You have engineers popping in and out, you have guests from the different languages, and the only thing separating us from the Germans, on our left, and the French, on our right, are thin sound walls its completely open at the back, he says. or maybe you,re a relative ?? Juan Antonio Flecha and Johnny Hoogerland were sent into barbed wire on the Tour de France because the France TV van was about to hit a tree having a run out of road, but took the softer option of the riders. #GPDenain pic.twitter.com/2DsagK73lS, Wanty-Gobert Cycling Team (@TeamWantyGobert) March 24, 2019. JavaScript is disabled. Yes Harmon is okay and like I said - at least he does his homework on the teams and riders and hangs on every word uttered by Sean Kellyas though he is keen to learn the professional circuit. During a sprint stage, every turn is important, and sometimes Ill walk the final approach with [commentator] Sean Kelly, and there will be no need to even take notes, because hell just say, Oh, this will be shit. You can read an off-camber turn when youre standing on it, and see the attack points when youre going up and down a mountain. 4th in last year's Giro d'Italia. View our media pack. Its the press guys we see more, because of the mechanics of the day. It is exciting being in a vast peloton, and the less experienced ones almost engage with it. 14 Aug 2020. To my mind, the motorcycles are the most dangerous because they have the least ability to stop. Most races have one unit but the Tour de France has four double-decker units. (PS If there's anything here about donating, that's the website host - nothing to do with this petition - there is nothing to donate to. He is thinking Champs Elysees. VN:Whats it like calling a race from back home at the studio? I don't think much does get through to him, I really wish it did. That is in fact my main Friday occupation. Eurosport's voice of cycling Carlton Kirby analyses the collision between Peter Sagan and Mark Cavendish that ended the Tour de France for both men. But, being in the studio means there is a considerable loss of interaction. Ive done so much and been so many places that I mostly have all of them embedded in my head. It is guys sitting on a motorbike who pull up alongside a cyclist and say 'how are you doing?'. And his constant er, er, erms.. all the time were extremely irritating. Hence, To be qualified to fill up that huge amount of time is, quite naturally, a daunting job. All material FarrellyAtkinson (F-At) Limited, Unit 7b Green Park Station BA11JB. When Cavendish won again on stage 14, Kittel just fell to pieces emotionally. Astonishingly though, a single stage of the Tour de France lasts for about more than six hours. ADDITIONAL: 13/4/21 - Some have said that this petition is 'cruel', but if you're in the public eye then you are open to criticism of your professional abilities - or are we now not allowed to criticise the abilities of authors, actors, sports people, musicians, etc.? I realise that commentating on a race involving nearly 200 riders is challenging, but since 1986 I have always been able to follow what is going on thanks to the commentary. I never say when Im on-site vs. at the race. All the news from the site and beyond as we start a new week. Marcel Kittel gesticulates as Mark Cavendish wins stage 14 of the Tour de France ahead of Peter Sagan, Stage six finish: Cavendish edges Kittel again in thrilling finale, WATCH: Moment Cavendish finds out he has won. And then, of course, there are the flat stages and the sprint finishes. I think people will appreciate what were trying to deal with. Utterly self-absorbed: he had already decided who'd won. Also, Kirby criticises riders in almost every race. Let us know what you think in the comments. But Kirby is only interested in his own narrative: McEwen told him twice that Herrada had won, but Kirby kept eulogising about Batistella's 'win', even as Herrada celebrated further coming past the camera. i like the stuff the two GCN guys do, is it dan Loyd and Matt Stephens? And then on day one on Utah beach..boom..Cavendish stuns the previously unbeatable German racer. Even my partner, who doesn't watch cycling, could tell who had won. I agree listening to the mans over stressed enthusiasm really gets on my nerves. Win! You can do that by clicking one of these links - TAKES 30 SECONDS: https://help.eurosport.com/hc/en-gb/requests/new, https://help.globalcyclingnetwork.com/hc/en-gb/requests. "Commentating on cycling is not like snooker or tennis," says Carlton Kirby, principal commentator for Eurosport's cycling coverage, who has worked in the sport since 1996. And I said: Because I asked him! I asked him at breakfast, because when youre on-site, you can talk to the riders. The youngsters were congratulated by the force on Twitter, as they helped chase down a thief who had stolen over 300 worth of goods. Thus, the commentary that you hear wont come from the finish line, but rather from some television studio thousands of miles away. And if you ever thought the job of the commentator was easy, think again, with the ability to multi-task a key skill for anyone working in live television. In the early 1990s he became a freelance commentator. You also get a guy filming on the one side of a cyclist, who is then blocking the rider from turning at the right angle into a corner because a motorbike is blocking him. The best thing you can do is relax, in my opinion, Kirby explains about going live on air. Such things impact ones reputation a lot, and there is no way around it. because there wuld be an uprising in the country. At dinner, you gather around the table and argue the hell out of it, and thats a big thing. I can't understand why Eurosport need to use him when they gave at least four other knowledgeable commentators, even without Harmon. I can walk or drive the technical approach to the finish, which is gold. It just stays online forever. You can get every picture you need from in front of the peloton. Theyre the best stages, and the most exciting ones, but often as a commentator the days you take the most pride in are actually the ones where absolutely sod all has happened! For example, I know that Jakob Fuglsangs last name means bird song, which is a nice little thing. 27/8/22: Stage 7 of the Vuelta, Herrada wins the sprint and has his arm in the air in celebration. Anyone but dreary Declan Quigley please! "Oh! https://yahoo.uservoice.com/forums/1698 ant-drivel, http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85131. Creativelyreplacing it witha Trek 1.2, Jack mostly rides this bikearound local cycle paths nowadays, but when he wants to get the racer out and be competitive hispreferred events are time trials, sportives, triathlons and pogo sticking - the latter being another long story. Thats because the Tours largest broadcasters are staying at home due to the COVID-19 pandemic, rather than broadcasting the race on-site in France. What blasphemy is this? Joe Robinson. Yep I always watch the ITV coverage if possible - even if that means missing the stage live and watching the highlights package (like the vuelta). It is amusing that explaining this is futile, he remarks. Learn More, Blog: Abusing other cyclists highlights everything wrong with cycling in Britain, Chris Froome backed by strong Team Sky squad for Vuelta a Espana, Vuelta a Espana 2015 route: five stages which could decide the race, Vuelta a Espana 2015: five stages which could decide the race. Controversial! Baseless. Create a personalized feed and bookmark your favorites. Kirby has more than two decades as a. Kelly will probably kill him by the end. One of the most adaptable voices on British Television, as can be seen from hisworking synopsis, Carltons range is wide. As just one example, the long list of criticisms he has levelled at Thibault Pinot. Eurosport will never get rid of Carlton Kirby, he receives so much fan-mail that it will far out way any negative feedback they get from him. Carlton Kirby: 'Joo Almeida, who won't worry anyone in the General Classification'. I comfort myself with the fact that there are people out there who actually hate Terry Wogan. What is the point? He has to engage with the directors in the ear, guarantee that innumerable hours of gaps are filled in suitably, deal with incoming radio announcements, all the while tackling an uproar of a different kind with the action around him. I think you need to be a specialist to be a cycling commentator, yet he covers several sports on Eurosport. theres nowhere like ENOUGH cycling on tv. Hosted by Duncan Steer. but the bike was nowhere to be found!" Eurosport commentator. To cycling fans, Carlton Kirbys voice has become synonymous with the sport, having become an integral part of British Eurosports racecoverage. All rights reserved. Minutes later, Sean Kelly points out that Padun is 'not getting around the corners well not comfortable whatsoever on the descent'. One thing Ive always been able to do is, I believe, see a very wide picture and a lot of different movement, and call those fast and accurately. And alongside everything going on in his ear and on the screens in front of him, Kirby says the booths themselves can be a sourceof distraction from the job of commentating. Following a two year broadcasting secondment with the United Nations in the South Pacific he joined ITV as TVam's overnight Sports Producer and Reporter. Matt Stephens will be Eurosport's dedicated reporter on all Grand Tour coverage, bringing breaking news, updates, and interviews from inside the peloton. Nonetheless, one other thing that Kirby believes, sets the very best apart is commitment. When youre on-site, even though youre there, youre still watching a monitor, Kirby says. pic.twitter.com/fFcEf0AgHK, Volta a Catalunya (@VoltaCatalunya) March 25, 2019. One example of his commentary, from 11/3/21 Tirreno-Adriatico: Carlton Kirby: 'Yates is the heart and mind of this breakaway group'. Please enter your email so we can keep you updated with news, features and the latest offers. Continuing our discussion of 2020's cancelled/postponed races continues, Eurosport bon viveur Carlton Kirby discusses why riding up Swiss mountains is easier than riding up French mountains; villages accessible only by ladder; the world's highest lighthouse; 70s balladeer Gilbert O'Sullivan; human . pic.twitter.com/bcRWeK1p3o, just merder. The prodigious British riderTao Geoghegan Hart laid into Kirby's"outrageous claims", and Owain Doull also chipped in to describe Kirby as a "proper muppet". Are you sure? Eurosport's Carlton Kirby. If it goes on for two or three years, then people will notice because the freshness of what is in our heads will ebb. 2.4K views, 20 likes, 3 loves, 5 comments, 3 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Eurosport: "The pictures were all over the news. During a long interview, the legendary veteran commentator of Eurosports shares some of his knowledge about the job. They race ahead, dismount to get the tracking shots they need of the riders. It was almost featureless and the riders would not engage in it at all. Riders who perhaps finished tenth on a day will be livid that we didnt eulogise about them, but Im sorry, I was talking about the person who finished first. Commentating on cycling is not like snooker or tennis, says Carlton Kirby, a principal commentator for Eurosports cycling coverage, who has worked in the sport since 1996. CK:As a commentator, you dont have a great deal of contact with the riders. Get rid. What is his cycling background ? CK:I think not many people will notice. And somebody asked me, why dont you pronounce his name Foo-gel-sang instead ofFoolsong. Here they are listed below, but we already know there will be one change - Team Sky will be racing as Team Ineos, with the Tour de Yorkshire being its first race following the management company's sale to the petrochemical business. More often than not they slip into commentary which is at best nationalistic, and at worst xenophobic. With very little data being sent to them, and some pretty bad camerawork they have made a good fist of the event in Spain. Talk about what you know. Carlton Kirby discusses the art of commentary, says thank you to those who enjoy listening to him. It is crazy. Get access to more than 30 brands, premium video, exclusive content, events, mapping, and more. I think its just taking a breath and think about the consequences, he concluded. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The schedule and time duration work differently for every sport. After moving to 30 Tour de France stage wins with four rousing victories that has shattered Marcel Kittel on this year's Tour, Eurosport's voice of cycling Carlton Kirby tells Desmond Kane why he . Eurosport is a group of pay television networks in Europe and parts of Asia. All the news from the site and beyond as we start a new week, Thomas De Gendt bosses Volta a Catalunya opener and solos into 3-minute overall lead. They seem to think that it is enough to just talk about english speaking riders, or to 'emote' any time there is a crash, or a difficult corner. You can sound like youre a genius, with an incredible memory, Kirby says. I could paint the Galibier and Ventoux and even some of the rarer mountains by memory. Yep, thats my pick. Exactly - and if you had any insight into professional riding and experience actually being a pro like Sean Kelly or Rob Hayles - you wouldnt struggle to find commentary. On the last Vuelta a Espaa, Tinkhoff threatened to pull his team out because two of his riders - one of whom is Peter Sagan - were hit by vehicles. And then, you hang a look at anyone who is there to find out if theyre going to listen to you. His voice tends to wake me up from my nap when something happens. Carlton Kirby pete54 Posts: 488 March 2014 edited October 2019 in Pro race For all those who can't stand Kirby's 'commentary' (must be everyone on Bikeradar? Antoine Demoitie tragically died after being hit by a motorbike. You have got to be kidding! Discovery company. You always get letters or emails from people who really enjoyed your commentary, but youll always get those who hate every fibre of your being.. Conversely, a Carlton Kirby Fan Club exists for those who love the cycling commentator. And within the second group, he sprints hard, coming 13th overall. All crescendo sports deserve to be treated as such. If you are not interested you can unsubscribe at any time. I can get caught out, particularly if theres a crash in the last three kilometres, because that can animate the tempo even more and I have to keep something in reserve for the sprint finish. After a long journeyback to the hotel, often punctuated by Kelly taking media calls especially on the stages he himself would have thrived on during his career its then a debrief over dinner and back to bed for a seven-hour sleep and restarting the process again the next day. Eurosportreports that Kenny expanded on the incident on BBC One today, saying: Someone felt they had right of way and decided that gave them the right to kind of jump on the throttle and drive at us, which was a scary experience. Tech, reviews: tech [at] road.cc Carlton Kirby: 'Joo Almeida, who won't worry anyone in the General Classification'. ). There's also his lack of knowledge. Mrs John Murphy May 3, 2010 2,662 0 0 Aug 26, 2011. He's ruining the sport I love - I avoid many races purely because he's the commentator. March 2, 2022 . Kirby says he opens the Tours road book (the bible for riders and media alike) first and foremost, having to change all of the notes to match his commentary notes and the on-screen graphics counting down the kilometres, rather than up as the book does. Unlike other sports, the practicalities of cycling dont change, and doing this remotely is not at all a good idea, but the situation makes all helpless. Every time she fought back from a coma we were warned. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport this year, with stories and reflections from his 25 years in the gantry. And thats where comes the utterly significant role of the commentator who not only has to fill the huge time span but needs to stay alert at all times. Well then I propose a CN forum audio livestream for the tour de france. How do you call one of the biggest sporting events on the planet? Being on the site always gives you extra material which makes the commentating so natural and energetic. There is no discussion or debate, just chatter, articles, and just that. On the descent, motorbikes often get too close to the cyclist in front of them. The man, the myth, the chosen son. There are already calls for a convening of UCI protocol committee so they can start to get some proper rules together about it. She talks about the background to the petition, which you can sign here, in this video. While folk littering with gel wrappers is no doubt annoying, is it really up there with fly-tipping? I've decided and bought a '21 Revolt which is nigh on identical in stack and reach to the Defy, only differences being a slacker front end and Well if you ever go to Chesterfield you will be called "youth" however old you are. Its the constant attempts at humour, then the giggling at his own in-jokes that has me reaching for the mute button. It's embarrassing now. I changed to German commentary on eurosport international today I was so mad. Agreed. Would the football fans be subjected to him commentating on the football matches ? And yet, love him or loathe him, Kirbys voice is as intrinsically linked to the Tour de France, for Eurosport viewers at least, as other famous voices across the sporting spectrum. Painting a verbal picture of a five-hour race is stream of consciousness, and to be able to do that effectively, you just need to be there. (Clarke is a very good rider, but there is nothing to suggest he SHOULD have won the 2016 M-SR. Watch the race.). A close study of the final 20 kilometres follows, picking out key hazardslike pinch points, street furniture and likely attack points, before the repeating the study in the car alongside King Kelly as the pair make their way to the commentary point at the stage finish. But it was here he developed the ability to call a sprint. Thus concentrating becomes a difficult job for a commentator. Tao Geoghegan Hart (@taogeoghegan) March 25, 2019. Yates ended up going out the back of the peloton, losing 1.22. I've just discovered, after following a tweet that Orla Chennaoui had re-tweeted, that the esteemed Mr Kirby has blocked me on Twitter. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby has called for action to regulate the role of motor vehicles in the sport following the tragic death of Belgium's Antoine Demoitie, who was. At other broadcasters you still have cue points, but its usually after youve finished making a point [because youre the only commentary team]. You can't work commentating on it for as long as he has next to informative ex-pros without some of it getting in through osmosis at the least. VN:When youre at the race, who are you talking to regularly to get your intel for the broadcast? I had almost no idea what was going on or who was where. But saves my life" German governments helmet advert sparks sexism row, Bristol taxi driver who cut up cyclist and braked in front of him has licence revoked (+ video), Porn Pedallers to carry on riding despite being stripped of British Cycling affiliation, in: Car crashes into building - please post your Local news stories, in: Has cycling become F1? I usually increase the pace especially on a sprint day to match the peloton, Kirby admits. We saw that on the Tour of Catalunya - a useless piece of motorcycle protocol. Once they pass by, they have to repass the peloton to get the shots they want later on. . Ive fallen off the Galibier. VN:What do you talk about differently when youre in the studio? Doesn't look that pretty, cable tied, very practical. "Beware everybody, he is well and truly back!" yelled Carlton Kirby on Eurosport commentary. Over 3,200 worth of amazing prizes from Pacenti Cycle Design and Saint Piran, including some stunning carbon wheels! Like this site? Every stage of the Tour de France LIVE on British Eurosport HD. Essentially, there needs to be some sort of schooling or protocol coming from the International Cycling Union that has a proficiency test for these guys. You might remember an 'interpretive spinning' vid doing the rounds on social media a few weeks ago. Simon Clarke, who should have won the 2016 Milan-San Remo is just one in a long, long line of things he invents from nowhere and then portrays as facts, banging on about them throughout a season. His cycling life began during his students days, when he cobbled togethera few hundred quidoff the back of a hard winter selling hats (long story) and bought hisfirst road bike - a Trek 1.1 that was quickly relegated to winter steed, before it was sadlypinched a few years later. carlton kirby leaves eurosport 2021; carlton kirby leaves eurosport 2021. You are calling the race as you see it on the screen. But try explaining that to Cycling Weekly and their letters column.. There are many great cycling commentators around at the moment, Im afraid Kirby isnt one of them. Kirby has more than two decades as a commentatorbehind him and, alongside Irish legend Sean Kelly, has been back at the Tour de France this year calling the action from Utrecht through to Paris. Thats when it down to you and not the riders.. We have seen far too much of it - near collisions as much as actual collisions over the past few years. Well over a 1000 signatories on that petition now. Without any editing, moderation, or credibility, it is all out in the name of fate. The commentary line-up will include regular voices Rob Hatch and Carlton Kirby, who will also joined by cycling legend Sean Kelly at all three major races. I speak no language other than English. I like Carlton too, not as much as Harmon, granted, but I've given up on him coming back. ), there is a thread in the Eurosport 'comments and suggestions' forum requesting that he be removed from the roster. He further says, "In tennis, you never talk through a point because the crowd doesn't. You get a sense of the weather a bright morning, going up this morning in a hail storm, and the hailstones are this big. if many people would do this via twitter it could at least give a sign. Carlton Kirby and His Approach On Commenting for GCN and Eurosport This Year: While cycling commentator Carlton Kirby and his teammates would normally head across the channel for the Tour de France, the recent situation suggests he will be covering the 2020 edition from the Eurosport studios in London.
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